Larisa Luzhina: "In men I value loyalty "

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Vysotsky dedicated a song to her; one of the first film stars of the Soviet Union, she went abroad, and not just anywhere, but to France, to the Cannes Film Festival! She had the opportunity to play in the Moscow Art Theater, but, as in the song, she chose Oslo … France, feelings and work are still dominant in her life. About the pain of parting with a loved one, about war and happiness, and much more - in our frank conversation with the People's Artist of Russia.

ABOUT BLOCKADE AND WAR

Blitz "Cleo":

- Are you friends with the Internet?

- I do, but when I need to find out someone's biography, the history of the origin of something. For example, I am now rehearsing a play based on the life of Alexander III and playing there Maria Feodorovna, the empress's wife. Therefore, I immediately found the information I needed. Or I need to buy something - my head is confused with some kind of medicine, I can also find and order. This is how I use it, but to correspond, like my eldest grandson sits all day … We come to Bulgaria, I say: “Danka, will you see the Black Sea at all? Or 9 pools around? No, he sits on the Internet from morning till night - he communicates with a friend, with Moscow endlessly. I don’t understand this. I recently came to a new cafe that we have opened. There is a couple in front of me, a pretty couple, very pretty girl and boy - they have coffee, cakes. And they sit, buried in gadgets - that's all! They do not communicate with each other, but why did they come to the cafe? We go to a restaurant to chat, we go to a cafe to talk, right? I don’t know to find out something interesting. I remember when mobile phones had just appeared without the Internet - there was another passion: we were traveling in a compartment with one actress, and all evening and all night she was talking on two phones without stopping. I could not understand what it was possible to talk about without interruption: one would finish talking, another would start (laughs).

- What is an unacceptable luxury for you?

- I do not know.

- Where did you spend your last vacation?

- In Simferopol with a concert.

- Did you have a nickname as a child?

- Yes, Red Pea was my name. I had dresses with red polka dots. When I went to the pioneer camp, the first grade, in my opinion, it was, I had a blue dress with red polka dots. And the boys ran and teased: "Red Pea, all the boys are in love with you!"

- Are you an owl or a lark?

- Lark. You know, there is such an anecdote on this score. A person is asked: "Are you an owl or a lark?" - “I'm not an owl, because owls fall asleep late. I'm not an early riser - larks get up early. I am a ferret - because all ferrets sleep, sleep, sleep."

- What turns you on?

- Answer.

- How do you relieve stress?

- I do not know. Used to be champagne. And now health does not allow. I'm reading a detective story.

- Which animal do you associate yourself with?

- Cat, I collect them.

- Do you have a talisman?

- No.

- What is your psychological age?

- I do not know. I feel about 50 years old.

- What is your favorite aphorism?

- I do not know.

I don't remember anything. You ask me so, as if I passed the blockade - and I was only two and a half years old, how can I remember something? (Smiling) The only thing is that I have a blockade bear. I can't remember anything, but I remember him. He passed the entire blockade, even yesterday he was on the show with me - he becomes famous with me (laughs). He is already 77 or 75 years old, his dad brought him to his birthday. He's ugly now, but he was so handsome! He used to growl, he was fluffy, he lived such a long life, was in many hands - with my cousins, with their children, with their grandchildren … And now he came back to me 4 years ago, from Germany, already all so stitched, sheathed - but! Rarity. He probably remembers the blockade well, but I don't remember very well. Therefore, I only know from my mother's stories that it was a difficult time. Mom worked in the Red Triangle, dad in 1942 was wounded near Kronstadt. They brought him home, he was lying wounded. The wound was not very serious, he died of exhaustion in the 42nd year. And my sister had died of hunger before. The grandmother was killed by a shrapnel. Everything was complicated enough, there was nothing good. And mom said that when dad was buried, taken to Piskarevka, she began to lift his bed and found pieces of small bread under the pillow with which she tried to feed him. And he did not eat, but hid everything under the pillow - for me. I remember that when there was an air raid alert, my sister Lucy was three years older than me (I was 3 and she was 6) and we were alone, my grandmother was gone, my dad was gone too, and my mother went to work and said: "Immediately run to the bomb shelter." And Lyusya and I did not run anywhere, she took my hand and we ran under the bed - so we hid from the air raid under the bed. I know that we had a very good aunt, aunt Anechka, who helped us a lot - she was an honored doctor. She was naturally plump, small - so they almost ate her. She was walking down the street - a lasso was thrown over her. People ate people in the blockade! Even their own. We have a janitor, for example, two children died of hunger, and she did not bury them … Well, she went crazy, of course, from hunger. Of course it was hard. At the end of the blockade, in 1944, we were evacuated to Leninsk-Kuznetsky. And we went again with mom and bear. We stayed there until 1945. Just after the Victory, we returned to Leningrad in June. But, unfortunately, our apartment was occupied and we had to leave for Estonia. My grandfather, who was no longer alive, was an Estonian. My uncle, his brother, worked in Tallinn since 1940, he was sent to restore Soviet power there - and he took us to his place, and we lived there since 1946.

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Don't you remember your father?

No, I don't remember at all.

And mom?

Mom died in the 82nd year. Of course, I remember my mother well. It is a pity that she passed away at the age of 67 - she could still live and live … But, apparently, the blockade caught up with her, because it still affected her. She probably experienced happiness only in the first 3-4 years before the war, when she and dad met in 1937. And these years that they lived before the war were probably the happiest years in her life. Then she never married again. She had common-law husbands of some sort - but it was all like that … there was not much love there. She lived a rather difficult life. She has never even flown by plane! She kept saying: "I'm afraid I won't fly!" And then in the 82nd year she passed away and so never flew on an airplane - she traveled all the time by train.

In Tallinn, I graduated from high school, began filming there at the Tallinn Film Studio, even before the institute. And then I moved to Moscow, and my mother stayed in Tallinn. In 1980, I brought her here to Moscow. It was difficult to change apartments - she had a one-room apartment there. And they changed it to Pushkin. Tallinn is dearer to me than Leningrad, because I do not remember Leningrad at all. And in Tallinn, from kindergarten to college, I spent all my childhood, adolescence and youth.

ABOUT VYSOTSKY AND OTHERS …

In Moscow, she adapted quickly enough. I went straight to the hostel, and there we had such a stormy and interesting life! This is a different world in which everyone communicates. Our VGIK hostel was divided into floors: on one - the operators lived, on the other - the artists, on the third - the scriptwriters, etc. All five floors were engaged in their profession. Therefore, we lived a common, good life. We had our own guest rooms, where a lot of interesting people came. Volodya Vysotsky came, always with a guitar, sang … Muslim Magomayev came to us on the 4th floor, while still a student. We had a room there, in which there was a piano, and now we always arranged all kinds of meetings there … There was such a time when everyone was fond of Pasternak, Blok, Akhmatova, Severyanin. The windows were curtained, candles were put. Dry wine. Ducat cigarettes - then there were, then "Stolichny" appeared. And these were the evenings that remained in my memory. And always, when they ask me what I would like to return, I answer - student years, and that's exactly the hostel. I think it was more interesting than living with a family or renting a room, because there is a different world.

Whenever they ask me what I would like to return, I answer - student years, and that's exactly the hostel.

You said that you did not like the film "Vysotsky" …

On the one hand, I do not really accept this picture, but on the other, I think that it may be and should be. Because if you don’t remember what will then be left? Perhaps, even in this form, memory needs to be preserved. Nikita is right, he probably preserves the memory of his father. Human memory is short - if you do nothing, then everything is quickly forgotten. And here I do not really agree with the fact that the very last years of my life were taken. Bezrukov - I want to give him his due. Seryozha is a fine fellow, he grasped the physics Volodin. He is really similar in figure and did a great job. He held a cigarette like Volodya, and smoked like he did, and held a guitar like him. He did everything exactly in physics. A close-up … You can't play the eye anyway! Whatever it was - it was not Volodin's eyes. If the close-ups were not shown, it would be great at all. But as soon as the close-up is shown - at once a feeling of some unpleasant, some kind of carrion gave off, a corpse. Because you can't do anything here anyway. Therefore, I could not watch this, I turned away from the screen.

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How do you remember Vladimir Vysotsky?

What he was - a normal guy. Nice, open. Well, how to say, open - he seemed open, but, probably, was not such at the same time. He was very sociable, very friendly. Nicely courted girls. When he sang - what can I say, here in general all the girls were his! Because when he picked up a guitar and began to sing, it was impossible to take your eyes off him - he was transformed! Completely changed before our eyes! He just became handsome. Although outwardly he was not handsome, not Alain Delon - so handsome. He always reminded me a little later - then, for example, on a French record, there is a good portrait, where he is in a cap, with a cigarette - Jean Gobain. There is something in common between Jean Gabin and Vysotsky. And so he was a normal person. Moreover, when we were filming in "Vertical" - it was 66th year, we were all practically on an equal footing! Volodya was just starting, however, he had already written a couple of good songs, but there was not that halo that is now around him. And even in the 70s, when he began to appear on stage, when he was met by millions of people, then he was still banned. He sang in his friends, in apartments, in rooms and in kitchens with his guitar. He always responded, never had to beg him - he took the guitar himself and what he wrote new, he immediately performed to his listeners.

What do you think killed him?

When we were familiar with him … We were friends with him until the 70th year, well, how we were friends - we talked. Here is my first husband, Lesha, he was friends with him, and until the last days the friendship was preserved. When my husband and I parted ways, Volodya and I parted ways, especially when he had already married Marina Vlady, I did not meet with him. And then, at that time, there were no drugs! He had a disease, it probably comes from his ancestors - the disease of alcoholism. It was a disease, not that he could not live without vodka. No - he could, calmly could not drink at all for a year or two. But, in my opinion, he was somehow provoked into this all the time. This is natural, because we have a lot of "well-wishers" around, and when they sit at the table … Usually, everything happens at a feast … Any concert, meeting, premiere always ends with some kind of feast. Volodya could not drink. We filmed with him at "Vertical" - he had not drunk for two years before, and in our picture - we filmed for 5 months - he never, never touched alcohol! Somehow he is going, going far - to the north, somewhere else - and going to a feast … Sometimes he could not stand it. He could have one glass to drink - but he was not allowed at all! The body demanded, depending on it. And so he broke down! Therefore, he dropped out of life - it's a pity, well, not for long, for a week, until close friends missed him, like the same Marina, who endlessly pulled him out of this state: she took him to the hospital, where they washed his whole body. And he also had such an organism … He really worked very hard - he had shooting, theater, and stage. Moreover, difficult performances in which he played. And he wrote mostly at night. Well this is how much - if you write 800 songs and poems - how much you need to have strength and how much you need to pass everything through yourself in order to play the same Khlopush, suppose, or "The Dawns Here Are Quiet", or "The Cherry Orchard" - yes, take any performance Theater on Taganka …

When someone said that Marina Vladi was dedicated, he replied: "This song is not dedicated to Marina Vladi, but written for our Lariska Luzhina."

Did you take offense when he dedicated a song to you?

Well, offended, in what sense - well, she was a fool. I didn't like the song at first. It seemed to me that she was kind of very ironic. It hurt me that it was written with irony. This is a really ironic song, with a smile. Now I understand that the song is written with a smile, and, moreover, in a kind way. Now I perceive it normally, and even the song I like. And then I got offended and even … did not talk to him. And then I forgot about this song and somehow never remembered, even during Volodya's life. It was later, after his death, that Govorukhin spoke about it. When someone said that Marina Vladi was dedicated, he replied: "This song is not dedicated to Marina Vladi, but written for our Lariska Luzhina."

SHE WAS IN PARIS …

When you first went abroad - what were your impressions?

It was the 62nd year when I first came to France, a 1st year student, only moved to 2nd year, living in a hostel, when we had nothing and it was not clear what we ate … We flew to Paris. We had tea, which we called "White Rose", because it was brewed 5-6 times and it was already slightly yellowish. And black bread - I had such a breakfast when they flew to Paris. And then we all saw it … We were treated by Nadezhda Petrovna Leger, the wife of the artist Leger, who gave us a reception - a gorgeous table was laid. The French have great gourmet dishes, and they had a tree on which hung lemons that turned out to be ice cream! I saw it for the first time, and now, I know, we have it all in Moscow. And then it was not clear to us what it was! And then our representative told me: “Do you know how much this dinner costs? Its cost is the monthly wage of a French worker. " I think: "My mommy!" And we were given 30 francs in total for daily allowance - and what could be bought for 30 francs? You can't buy anything special. You come to the store - your eyes run up! We never had these things! Of course, especially in France - beautiful toilets, shoes … and we just walked around licking our lips.

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So you didn't buy anything?

And for what? You can't buy 30 francs! Nadezhda Petrovna made gifts, bought dresses in which we went out on the red carpet. Bought me a very beautiful dress, lace little dress, like black, exactly the same cut, but blue. I was small, thin. The color of the permange is bluish-grayish. And tight lace. That's all we could get. Not even to buy, but to receive gifts. And what? Some souvenirs to bring someone to Moscow. But this is the most memorable trip. Why - because it was my first trip, and secondly, Nadezhda Leger and I, who took us under her patronage, visited the Leger Museum, which she had already built after his death. I have pictures hanging in my kitchen - but they are not originals, of course. In a TV program they presented it as originals, my son says to me: "Listen, Mom, they presented it as if it were originals - be careful not to be robbed, they will think that there are insanely expensive pictures." But they are very good - from her hands, they are really reproductions.

I started with France, then - Karlovy Vary, Prague, then - Dublin, Ireland, then - Oslo, then - Iran. That's all that Volodya wrote in this song, I had just passed it by that time, by the 66th year, when they began to shoot the picture. And then, after all, there was an Iron Curtain, they didn't go abroad much, so I was the only one in our film crew who went abroad. So I talked a lot about it. Then there was the painting "On the Seven Winds", when I was already quite popular for that time. That is why Volodya wrote this "she is here today, and tomorrow she will be in Oslo."

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What is your favorite country now?

I honestly love France, I love Paris. Although the last time I was there with Channel One - they took me there for my anniversary, filmed a story about me. I like everything there - Champs Elysees, Montmartre.

And painting?

I love impressionists, Picasso, Chagall. I was familiar with Marc Chagall - how else the trip is memorable. We were brought by Lev Kulidzhanov to visit Marc Chagall. How I remember him - he was all gray-haired, he was about 60 years old, and with blue-blue eyes, and seemed very kind to me. His wife brought him, she ran to the doctor, to the dentistry, she had a toothache, and Mark received us at his place, showed us his workshop. Then he was already engaged in ceramics. There were many apprentices - he gave them tasks, and the sketches were already done by his artisans - the artists who worked with him. The first picture that immediately caught my eye was a flying wedding couple "Above the City". Lev Alexandrovich was familiar with him, so he conducted a conversation with him, and we, the girls, timidly sat and were present with everyone. And so I remember the story he told us. Since he is from Vitebsk, he loved this city very much and was fond of Vitebsk, recalled with warmth. And he said that as soon as the war ended, a German ace pilot came to him and said: “I brought you a present. You are my favorite artist, I really appreciate your work and brought you such a gift. " It was an evil gift - he gave him a photograph of Vitebsk. Since he was a pilot, he shot the city from above, from an airplane. Destroyed Vitebsk. And he gave him such a city. And this one made a gift to his beloved artist. German ace pilot. He showed us this photo. Indeed, it was necessary to act so cruelly …

ABOUT LOVE, WORK AND FAITH

Is there anything you wanted to change in your past? What is inevitably sorry?

No, nothing. What was, what was. Maybe I left my second husband in vain when my son was six years old, and married another - because there I developed love. This is what I regret, because my son had and still has a good father - Valera, a good person and a talented cameraman. It was necessary, perhaps, to save - the family. Although … Pavlik did not lose his father, he talked with him all the time, met; visited him on vacation. So the son was not deprived of his father. Until now, Valera and I are in touch, we are all going to celebrate the birthdays of our grandchildren.

Maybe I left my second husband in vain when my son was six years old, and married another - because that's where my love arose.

How did you break up with your second husband?

It hurt. Probably, I think that there is still a certain vanity. Because I didn’t leave, but he left. If I left … After all, I was the first to leave all the time. And so here it seems to me that my pride played more. Yes, it probably hurt that you were betrayed. He was ten years younger than me. Probably, I worked a lot and tried for him mainly, I wanted to do something pleasant for him all the time. Because he practically didn’t do anything. So, all the time he tried to write something, but he did not succeed. And Valera was already a well-known operator by this time. Why I still regretted it so much - because while we were husband and wife, he was just starting, he was the second operator. When they parted, he immediately shot "The Crew", "Peter Got Married", "The Tale of Wanderings", "Intergirl" … Send pictures with Todorovsky. Indeed, the rise of my career began, but it was no longer my husband, unfortunately, but the husband of another woman.

And you refused to serve in the Moscow Art Theater at the time …

Nobody invited me to the Moscow Art Theater - it's not true. I just dreamed about the theater, when I studied with Sergei Apollinarievich Gerasimov, he always told me: “Larissa, you are for the stage. You need to work in the theater - you have texture, voice. Our course was very famous: Galya Polskikh, Seryozha Nikonenko, Gubenko … But all of them were not tall, and I alone was taller. Only Vitya Filippov was on a par with me. And even Tamara Fedorovna talked about me at the Moscow Art Theater, and I had to come to the audition, but I didn’t. I went abroad at that time - I did not know which was better for me: to go to Oslo or go to the audition. I left and thus lost … well, I don't know, maybe they wouldn't have taken me!

You yourself say that you do not regret anything …

No, I regret, on the one hand, why - I really wanted to get into a good theater, it's a great pity that life has passed - and I did not get on a good stage with a good director, an academic theater in which I wanted to serve. And the Theater of the Movie Actor … We had Dmitry Antonovich Vuros, for example. A very good director, in "Barbarians" I played Nadezhda Monakhova for him - I remember that, it was a good performance. But all the same, the theater of the Movie Actor was not the same. It aroused more zoological interest of the viewer, visitors came here who wanted to see famous film actors: Ladynina, Mordyukova, Luchko, Druzhnikov, Strizhenov … Of course, I wanted to see a "live" film actor on stage.

I was baptized twice. My grandmother baptized me as a child, but my mother never told anyone. And then I was baptized too late.

Do you believe in fate?

Well, so … Yes.

Are you a believer?

Yes, I do. I am Orthodox, of course. I was baptized twice. My grandmother baptized me as a child, but my mother never told anyone. And then I was baptized too late. I was baptized in 90 when my son joined the army. And I went the same day as he was escorted to the army, to the church. Here in Kuntsevo. Where the Kuntsevskoye cemetery is, there is a church. And they told me there that I was already baptized. The church said I didn't know. But they baptized me anyway. “So you are twice baptized,” I was told. Probably, my father assumed, I do not know how, he could not say for sure - I have no paper at all. And then, excuse me, there was a time when no one ever spoke about it. Even if I was baptized, my mother did not tell anyone about it … I go to church when I am drawn. So I feel that today I need to go to church - I am going, we have a temple nearby. I observe all services on holidays …

It's hard for me to stand in church - for so long …

It's very hard. We still have a cruel Orthodox tradition, because with Catholics you can sit down, think, dream, relax … There you can sit for hours and listen to the organ, prayers, sermons. But it's still hard here, especially when you kneel down … Now we also began to make some kind of benches, otherwise people even faint. For example, my head starts spinning, I can't stand it for a long time, unfortunately. This Easter I was not at the service - I went to Simferopol, where we had concerts.

How did they go?

Very good. Our concerts were dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the Victory. Plus, the connection of Crimea with us.

What is your favorite war poetry?

I like Konstantin Simonov. Moreover, I believe that the poems "Wait for me …" although not for our film "On the seven winds" were written, but could just be the leitmotif of this picture. Because the picture is about loyalty to love, although I understand that he wrote it for Valentina Serova. I love Yevtushenko very much. I like Rozhdestvensky among poets.

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What quality do you value in men?

Loyalty, I guess. A sense of dignity to be in a person, so that you can rely on him … Loyalty, of course.

And in women?

I don’t know … I don’t like warlike women, I don’t accept business women at all. I always wanted to play Vassa Zheleznova. With such an iron character - it is clear what is missing in me, I wanted to try it on myself in the form of a role, as an actress to play it. And in life I do not like such women. It seems to me that a woman should be soft, kind, gentle, feminine …

What if they did?

Of course, I would gladly agree. I have dreamed about it until now and now I dream about it, but everything is too late - everything is played! Unfortunately, whatever you want to play - everything is played!

But Inna Churikova played …

Yes, she played well. But where else will it be ?! It's too late for me now. Vasse Zheleznova was 40 something, 50 - no more.

NOT TO DIE, BUT TO SLEEP

What is happiness, in your opinion?

Gradually, from each number to the number, their eyes grew warmer, their faces straightened, wrinkles disappeared. And by the end of the concert, they applauded, smiled and were happy!

Now, when you are already at an age, happiness is that you have already woken up and you see the blue sky. This is already happiness for you. I still have three grandchildren, I really want nothing to happen to them. We were on our way to Donetsk, and I think: “I have three grandchildren, I have a son, I am still able, I work, I help them. You never know?.. Who knows what might happen? Still, the time is tense. Maybe it won't happen - more, so to speak, conversations … But anything can happen, you know? Fate, as you say - you never know what she cooks there! " On the other hand, you think: “Why not? People need to be supported! " Sometimes they say - oh, come on, who needs concerts there now. People are shooting, they have nothing to eat, there are ruined houses, and you go to concerts - who cares? And I say: what about the military brigades who came before the battle with a concert, and then the soldiers went to battle and were in a completely different mood and condition? It's the same here when we were in the Krasnodar Territory, where everything sank - we went there too. Many people died there, and many houses simply collapsed. We arrived there with a concert. There is a cinema where people were paid benefits. They stand, all so gloomy, behind this manual. We thought that there would be an empty hall, no one would come - but they came, there was a full hall of people! They were all very gloomy and at first they were all terribly upset - such faces, you think: "Well, what is it, why do they need us?" But they were sitting! And then gradually, from each number to the number, their eyes warmed, their faces straightened, wrinkles disappeared. And by the end of the concert, they applauded, smiled and were happy! That is, we warmed them in some way. Donetsk and Lugansk also need this, I think. People also want their hearts to thaw.

Is there something that you fear most in life?

The fear of illness is only because it is the worst thing. I still don't feel well - my heart is not good. Disease is the worst thing that can be. You become disabled, crippled - no one needs you. I always read Igor Guberman's quatrain, which has sunk into my soul:

The flesh grows fat.

The ardor evaporates.

The years went out for a slow supper

And it's nice to think that you still lived

And someone even needed it.

Needed is the most wonderful feeling. That you are a necessary person. And when you become a cripple - with all the love of your family for you! - you still become a burden to them at some point. They will take care of you, they will do everything for you, but all the same, every day it will be through force, through force. You become a burden - it makes you scared. I want a quick death and an easy one. You know how it happens on Bright Easter. A person goes to bed, falls asleep and does not wake up. This is the best part. Therefore, I am even more afraid, as soon as you get sick - that's it. I want to fly somewhere, but … Here in Blagoveshchensk, in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk we have a festival, in which I took part all the time, I went all 8 years. And now I am afraid to fly for 8 hours, because my heart is bad - I have atrial fibrillation. Veins, blood clots can form! Of course, I want you to be able to take care of yourself until the end of your days, to serve yourself a glass of water.

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What do you dislike the most?..

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What if he does what you disagree with?

He must prove that he is right - then I will believe. I need to believe what he says. I can, of course, get into an argument. If I can prove to him that he is wrong, then he will also meet me halfway. And if he proves that he is right and not me, of course, I will go to meet him. But I had few such situations, I have always trusted the directors. There was such that she brought something of her own - especially in the latest series, where there is no special directing, I mean soap operas, when there are 5 directors in a picture - one is shooting one, the other is another, and you, an actor, all the time - one. And different people with different thoughts, concepts are working with you all the time, and you have to work in the same direction all the time. But there are decent serials, serial films. Nowadays, many directors are switching to serial films, because this is a multimillion audience, and a feature film is not watched much. They are great, go over and make decent pictures.

What is the main thing for you in life?

Life. Life itself is the main thing. In fact, work has always been the main thing, because without it it always becomes sad, boring and that's it - it feels like there is emptiness around. Ideal, of course, when everything is good, when everything is in complete harmony. But that doesn't happen. I can't say that I had everything - there was nothing particularly good in my work, because I think that as an actress I did not really succeed. All the same, I wanted to play a lot of things that I could not play. All the same, everything went somehow … Because I did not have my own director, everything went a little bit wrong …

I can't say that I had everything - there was nothing particularly good in my work, because I think that as an actress I did not really succeed.

But you had your own operator …

Nothing depends on the operators, unfortunately, only your close-ups. And your work does not depend on him. Now, in general, everything depends on the producer, but then everything depended on the director. All the same, everything somehow followed the path of least resistance: the directors used in me all my qualities that were in the previous films. There was no such thing to break … There was such a Semyon Ilyich Tumanov, who died, unfortunately, early; I starred with him in 2 films "Love of Seraphim Frolov" and "Life on a sinful earth" - that's where he gave me roles that were opposite. And Svetlana Druzhinina, in whom I played a very interesting role in "Fulfillment of Desires," I did not expect that she would invite me to her - this is the role of a secular aristocratic lady.

What directors would you like to work with?

A lot of people I would like to work with - but what's the point? Do you know the joke when an elephant tells an elephant how much he will eat? 20 kg of carrots, 20 kg of gingerbread, 20 kg of cabbage … He will eat something, but who will give him? I would love to - but who will give me?

But you are communicating …

Guys, how do we communicate - do you live in a different world? Where do we communicate? Only at festivals - that's all! And then, this is very short - this is 3-5 days of communication, and even then … Yes, you sit and talk, speak out about the films - and that's it! I don’t know, maybe someone keeps dating, I don’t succeed. I do not know how you can prolong your acquaintance, friendship. I am on good terms with everyone. But to establish labor contact, creative - I can't. I would love to star in Mikhalkov, Khotinenko, Kara - there are many directors with whom I would like to star.