Alexander Shulgin:

2024 Author: James Gerald | [email protected]. Last modified: 2023-12-17 14:00

You can write about stupid songs almost endlessly, since human fantasy knows no boundaries and does not fit into the framework of common sense. Categorically. This is not the American space shuttle Discovery to land and search for an AIDS vaccine! It takes a special mindset - in order to blow up a storm in a glass out of nothing ("she blinded from what was" - lines not only about making men, but also songs), twisting nonsense from three boxes, reinforcing idiocy with a couple of three proven rhymes "all without problems - I'll eat you "," I got into the net - maybe there will be children "," to kiss your lips - because again ", and proudly appear on the air of radio and TV - hey, I came up with (a), and he (a) sang (a)! Here you are grinning, and the artists with such pride draw out (write "sing" - the hand does not raise) the uncomplicated creations of their authors … True, thank God, not all authors are like that, and not always performers will sing such songs.

"In my new album there are two striking characters -" Ballerina "and" Singer ". They just characterize the current entertainment industry, - Alexander Shulgin, who recently released a unique album "Presentation", speaks convincingly … - Well, people cannot love it. Although they are shown it in huge numbers. Everything has already bothered by and large. Even if someone walks around and mumbles a chorus under his breath, then after a while he will not remember him. Because it cannot be called MU-ZY-KOY!

And you cannot say that the taste of the people is spoiled. It's just that at some point in development, a person may not be very developed in terms of his biological (passport) age, but in terms of spirituality. That is, his moral and ethical attitudes are at an initial stage, and he is still content with something elementary, but at the same time strives for development. A person who is old enough can be on that level when he likes something from what is now being heard on all radio stations. This means that he somewhere did not fully develop, somewhere he stumbled - he fell slightly, relatively speaking, remained for the second year.

But the imposition of this taste by certain structures, and even in such an amount as is happening now, leads to rejection. Many readers of Cleo.ru will agree with me, I'm sure. Because I do not think that you, lovely girls, are delighted with what is being sung and shown now. I know that women are spiritualized creatures."

- There is mass art, there is real art. And there is a mass, striving to become real. Still, there is still something real in our days?

- I take words seriously. If you take the etymology of the word "art", then this is "an art to create", right? Therefore, I do not really like this word. And I will change the question as follows: is there something right now? Of course there is! We just live, on the one hand, in a rather difficult time. But, on the other hand, this time must be lived through in order to achieve something more serious and significant. These are a kind of "revolutionary preconditions" when the upper classes cannot and the lower classes do not want to. Today is this: there is nothing new, there are no heroes, there are no new bright faces. And the society is waiting.

- Why is "Factory" so popular?

- Because people thought: "Oh, now we will be offered some new CLEAN faces" - and were fascinated. And then they saw that everyone who comes out of there becomes copies of the very pop that already exists. Then disappointment sets in, which makes the people demand something better. Of course, this process does not occur immediately, because several years in the life of society do not pass as noticeably as in the life of an individual. But these prerequisites then give a kind of passionate demand. And if there is demand, then there is supply. Only this new thing will not copy something from the West, because we have gone through this kind of thing more than once in the history of Russia. Remember, in the 19th century, all secular society spoke French. Not a word in your own language is bad taste! And then everything Italian dominated: Italian directors staged Italian operas in Russia, in which Italian artists sang.

So MTV is still "resting" compared to the onslaught of everything European and Western. But remember what happened next: operas went bankrupt, committed foreign directors and actors went home. And Lyadov's circle grew into a "Mighty Handful", giving out a galaxy of wonderful composers, such as: Rimsky-Korsakov, Mussorgsky, Borodin, Tchaikovsky … And these famous composers did not look to the West, they looked inside, at the root, found ethnic traditions, folk. And people accepted and loved them, because they are not interested in clones and fakes, which were made in Russia before the appearance of the "Mighty Handful" and are doing now.

People are interested in individuals, not imitators. Performers have to carry something. And now most of them go on stage to show themselves and their dress, to wiggle some parts of the body. But this is ridiculous! We don't live in a zoo!

- They say that we have begun to read less good literature, which means that there is degradation …

- This is a normal development. Think of America, which we love to look up to. There was a period when hippies reigned: there was an open relationship (what we want - we smoke, what we want - we drink, whom we want - we love). So, the children of these hippies, when they grew up, became the most conservative and puritanical. Because parents tried to isolate their children from what they themselves tasted. They understood what happiness is. Therefore, our today's unreading generation is not unreading until the end of its days. One day a person will understand that a lot of empty things have appeared in the world, for example, films with monotonous plots, and then he will have a desire to return to the book. And the question will arise: to which book? The one that I once read on the subway and forgot what she was talking about (you know, how I ate the salad: my stomach seems to be full, but I still want to eat)? Or something more serious?

- You are an optimist, I am watching!

- I believe in goodness. Even Ecclesiastes said that everything is vanity of vanities. Time to scatter stones, and time to collect them. A hug time is a time to shy away from hugs. There is a time of day, a time of night. Why settle the night inside yourself and say: "Oh, it has come, how hard and bad it is for me!" Life is cyclical. Everything that begins has the ability to pass. And after the dark time of the day there is always a clear day. We must believe in the best. Faith gives a lot to a person.

If something upset me, for example, I never go to bed in a bad mood. I go outside for at least 5 minutes, look at the sky … And everything disappears by itself, all the sorrows.

And I don't know what depression is. No, I understand the meaning of this word, but I never experience it myself. And where should it be? And why?

- To feel sorry …

- But you don't have to get depressed for that. You just have to say to a loved one: "I feel bad, have pity on me."

- And we are very afraid to ask.

- It seems to me that there is no need to be afraid of anything earthly! If you do everything right, sincerely and correctly, then luck will be on your side. The hand of the giver will not fail.

- And the fear of being rejected?

- So what? Will the world collapse? Nothing terrible will happen! The world does not have to develop according to the scenario that we have written for ourselves. Relatively speaking, there are two people: one imagines his life this way, the other differently. And so everyone is trying to remake the other so that he fits into his script. Don't do that! Because the world, regardless of your scenario, will develop as it develops. And when you accept it like this and go with the flow, this flow will help you. You can never change the world. You will crash, not he will crash. And when you trust the waves, you will save a lot of energy and nerves. Then you will float as painlessly as possible by, let's say, an island, you will understand that it is not yours, and you will rush to yours. Do not be afraid of this, it means that there is something good in store for you. Women are much wiser than men, they are thinner, more emotional and, I am sure, perfectly understand everything that I am talking about now. But sometimes they get confused in the relationship.

- Let's leave women and our personal problems for a second, because I have a more global question for you, perhaps: now they want to ban "plywood". What do you think about it?

- Absolutely not. Because how, for example, can you prevent a cockroach from going to the kitchen? It is a fight against a shadow, not a fight against a cause. This is just noise trying to convince us: yes, we are doing something. But this is not the question: a person who makes music will never need any "plywood"! I can't imagine Chaliapin singing to the soundtrack. Even if it was imposed on him, he would still refuse. And when a person does not have a voice, but only opens his mouth … It is not the phonogram that should be banned, no … But one day new people will come, with good clear voices. And then this question itself will disappear. And now this is a war of some clever men with other geniuses.

- Why is it difficult for people with amazing voices to get on stage now?

- Not in this case. Voice is not a criterion. You can lose it, or you can develop it through serious practice. If you were initially given something, then you can develop it. The already mentioned Chaliapin had an amazing voice. And Mark Bernes, who performed "Dark Night", did not have such a powerful voice in comparison with Fyodor Ivanovich. But with this one song he conveyed all the bitterness of war, pain and at the same time love, a story about a real man and woman, finally, conveyed the feeling of the whole era … This is the main thing!

And "Yesterday"? Is Paul McCartney a great singer?

The performer's voice is just an instrument. You see, if I have a gold "Parker", it does not mean that I am a great writer. If I was presented with good brushes and paints, it is not a fact that I will draw something beautiful. So it is here. As I say, you don't have to be an artist, but you must be a Man. Cultured and highly developed.

And one of the concepts of culture is the absence of vulgarity. Where vulgarity is, there is no culture. For a cultured person, vulgarity is unnatural. He will never even swear and fall into cynicism. So the performer is not in the voice, but in his inner filling - personality. Then he will know exactly how to convey these words to a person and put them in his soul. This is the basis of serving the Music.

- On the question of obscenity and vulgarity: do you consider Eduard Limonov's books to be literature?

- Of course not. Maybe I'll upset someone, but literature, painting, music always serve only one thing - creation. People who remain in the memory of the people, be they artists, writers, scientists, philosophers, were all believers. And this excludes vulgarity in any of its manifestations. All of them, conditionally speaking, looked behind the fence of our vain life and showed with their creations how it was there. To give us wings and clarify: since it is so good there, then everyone needs to strive there.

- Then I'll ask about Paolo Coelho or Dan Brown?

- When everyone started to get involved in Coelho, I discovered his "Fifth Mountain" for the sake of interest. And I found a lot of useful things for myself in the preface. There, the author says that one day he went to bed convinced that by the age of thirty he had reached the peak of his career. He worked as the artistic director of the CBS studio in Brazil. That night, he finally decided to give up his dream of being a writer. He was convinced that, although his life took a different path, it did not become less interesting, and a bright future awaited him in the world of music. But as soon as the author woke up, the phone rang: it was the president of the company. From the words of the boss, it became clear that he had just been fired without any explanation."

And then Coelho argues: "Some events occur in our life in order to return us to the true path of Destiny. Others are needed so that we apply our knowledge in life. And some events are designed to teach us." Everything in this world is arranged correctly. And someone's faithful hand always leads a person through life, indicating what is yours and what is not.

This is what I remember. And I agree with that. And I never finished reading The Fifth Mountain, because I realized that it was Coelho's free retelling of the book of Job. And in this case, I am always a supporter of getting acquainted with the original source, and not its transposition. The original source has been verified for millennia. All our ancestors, whose blood flows in us. So you should read it, because it is deeper and more interesting, and any retelling will unwittingly always have some kind of virus. And in the canonical text, every word has a meaning. A word is a letter and letters are symbols. This is the code encrypted in words! This is the difference between prayer and spell. Prayer leads to light, and spell is the opposite.

As for Coelho, on the one hand, one can understand that he is popularizing biblical texts. And, having read it, someone will come to Vera. But on the other hand, it is better to open the original source after all! Because a genetically modified apple seems to be like an apple, it is bigger, brighter, more beautiful. But to get pleasure, it is better to eat a regular apple, albeit a little wrinkled, but full of vitamins.

- And another question: are there artists on the Russian stage about whom we can say: a person had colossal opportunities, but he (a) did not use them.

- Of course! Read the parable of the talent buried in the ground. A person differs from an animal by a very important, but also a very dangerous criterion - the possibility of choice. Therefore, many of us, seeing in front of us a thorny path, winding and dangerous, and another - cleared, wide, attractive, choose the second and head along it. And there, on one of the sunny meadows, they are fried on a fire.

The stage is the hardest test. Copper pipes that maim and blow off the head. Can you imagine he suddenly became famous? He got fans. Glory came to him. He began to possess some kind of power. Money appeared. Well this is such a cocktail that not everyone is able to "drink"! It is no coincidence that copper pipes are the last to be listed: fire, water …

Again, this is a matter of personality. Lack of proper upbringing. When a person is in a storm, but he has this core - the right upbringing - he will withstand. When this rod is missing, it will break. Therefore, the foundations of correct upbringing are very important.

- How is it?

- And the "instruction for the use of man" has long been developed, but we often forget about it. We are happy to read the instructions on how to use a telephone, computer or vacuum cleaner, but we throw away the instructions for using a person, believing that we ourselves have a mustache …

- Are you talking about the Bible?

- Of course. Everything is written there very concretely: if you do it, you will get it … True, there are people who, due to their weakness, unreasoning, obsession with something, commit some kind of wrongdoing. But actions are not people. Because someone, out of ignorance, makes a certain choice and "plunges into" … But we can't say about a person who has caught a cold that he is sick for life, relatively speaking? We know that at the moment he has the flu, but he will recover and everything will be fine. It's just that now we see his momentary state, his ill health. It is the same with other people: today they did something bad, and tomorrow they came to their senses and corrected their mistake. After all, we look back and remember: "Oh, what stupid thing I did at school … was it really me? Such a dunce?"

- And if some person deliberately did something bad to me or to you. We forgave him, he "inherited" the second time, the third … Evil cannot be unpunished!

- Forty forty. Goodbye, of course! Do exactly the same as with the sick person whom I cited as an example: have pity on him. After all, spiritual diseases (not mental) are not measured by a thermometer. Sooner or later, repentance will come to that person. This must be treated with understanding. Let his soul heal from his weakness. Are we, perhaps, without sin, to throw stones at him? Love people. Love heals absolutely everything. She wins everything.

Photogallery by Alexander Shulgin

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